it was a best thing to ever happen to free speech in america. for the first time broadcasters were on an equal plain with our print brethren. >> host: what kind of metamorphosis did you see? >> guest: well, it was instant. i was involved in a talk radio station in seattle, washington, back in 1988. it was called king at 1090. very liberal radio station, i might add. and we can get into that story a little bit later. >> host: absolutely. >> guest: but immediately the first one out of the gate was rush limbaugh, and rush fully understood what it was to be able to opinionate. he had to live under the fairness doctrine guidelines when he located in sacramento, he told me that it was amazing that there was nothing doing political talk and he said oh, this is a cakewalk, my word, what fun this is going to be. then he had to succumb to the fairness doctrine by giving an hour of a program to somebody in the community who was concerned about what he said so he had to move over and it was the worst most boring hour of radio i'd ever done in my life and th